Not much is known about the Llama serial number sequencing, so we are attempting to do a database spreadsheet. For all practical purposes, we are looking at the handguns produced under the 'Llama' name, and not the earlier Gabilondo y Cia products. I strongly suspect that Gabilondo y Cia started a continuous one ascending number system from the point where they adopted the Llama name (early 1930s?).

Jan 03, 2018  All Spanish guns since ~1928 have a date code on them. On a Llama it is usually on the left side of the frame just above the trigger guard. On that pistol it will probably be a letter followed by a number, with an * between.

To start, these are some numbers I have. Please list model name/number, caliber, year code (if available) and serial number. 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1940 - 45680 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1940 - 46306 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1940 - 46883 Model II - 380 ACP - 1943 - 70989 Model I - 32 ACP - 1943 - 72994 (German GECO marked) Model II - 380 ACP - 1944 - 78290 Model I - 32 ACP - 1944 - 84482 'Extra' 9mm Largo - 1944 - 89123 Model IIIA - 380 ACP - (don't have year handy) - 739813.

Sorry for the delay in getting back to you. I have come to the conclusion that my pistol is a X-A and not a X. I have read that the Model X-A had a grip safety added when production of this model began in 1954. Although mine has a date code of V (1951), it has a grip safety. It has a lanyard ring, arched mainspring housing and checkered wood grips with no Llama medallion. The serial number is 1471xx which would put it around 2000 after yours. The slide has a rounded top with no sight ramp.

It did not come with a box so I have no idea how it was classified when it originally sold. I will change the designation on the database list. Whether it is a X or XA it is a beautiful little piece and a heck of a lot of fun to shoot. Regards, Cal44.

I am researching a mark on my.380 Llama with serial number 6XXXX. On the right side just below the serial number is G.C in a circle. The letters are scroll. From my research, I think this is a German distributor, but I don't think it is Geco.

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Once site gave a differant mark for Gustav Genschow and coompany of Berlin an ammunition manufacturer who also made some rifles, mostly.22 Another site suggested that it might be the mark of the Spanish manufaturer, but that mark does not appear on most of the small frame Llamas that I have seen. I lost a gunbroker auction on a similarly marked.32 or.380, a couple months ago, but can not find it in the advanced search so it might have been longer.

This particular pistol was Nazi marked and the seller gave the name of the company that the mark belonged to, but I can't remember it. The winning bid was over $900. The pistol was in beautiful shape, and I believe untouched. That being the case, I would think it very rare as it is the first I have seen.

The germans 'adopted' many commercial pistols to equip their military, Belgian, Polish, Italian etc., but I have never seen a commercial Llama. I got interested in the baby Llamas because they were pretty well made minature 1911s. I have a.22, a.32 (both post war) and the.380 which dates to 1942-1943. Any help on the mark would be appreciated. Let me know about the springs. If springs in the.32 and.380 problems as well? If so, any suggestions as to where I might pick up a couple.

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I won't shoot them much, but would like to get a couple of each just in case.my son and daughter might appreciate that when they go to sell 'emm after I'm gone. [QUOTE=larryh11]Hi Bill, Welcome to the forum! Didakticheskie igri po teme produkti pitaniya 1. Does your Llama say MicroMax on it? I don't think that model came out until the 90s.

By your date code I bet you have the III-A which is not marked anywhere on the slide. R*1 was made in 1973.